New Cup and Ring stones Discovered near Ilkley

Well, aar Mikki's nose has been hard at work again today. We were checking over some old bitsa rock art that are in the text-books, when she came wandering over, all wet & covered in muck, with that gleam in her eye, beaming about some carvings nearby. Here's one of 'em below:



It reminded me a little of the Tree of Life Stone up Askwith-way, but on this one we find the central trunk of the tree is a natural crack that runs up the middle of the rock. Up the 'trunk' are several short branches with cup-marks on either side. Altogether there are at least 12 cups and one ring, with several curious lines, some of which seem geophysical in nature, but some are obviously man-made. She uncovered the rock beneath loads of earth (you couldn't actually see the rock initially) and it hadn't seen the light of the fresh air for a few centuries. But as you can see, the carvings covered in muck. We've covered the stone back over and are gonna return to to it in the coming weeks to clean it up and see what more we can make out.

Oooh - and another barely-visible rock less than 2 yards east was also found to have 5-6 archetypal cups on it: two on the top section and 3 at the bottom.

A superb find for Paulus & Mikki.

This day the 'fates' have been with the three of us & good Fortuna she smiled.

Again, superb find. Make a drawing & maybe an interpretation will come forth.

Well done to both of you!

Best regards

john

Oh my my this is a good find, looks very like 'The Tree of Life' similiar in a way to the cross in Whalley churchyard (Cross no 1). Well done both of you.

Paulus wrote:Well, aar Mikki's nose has been hard at work again today. We were checking over some old bitsa rock art that are in the text-books, when she came wandering over, all wet & covered in muck, with that gleam in her eye, beaming about some carvings nearby.

Well done indeed but I bet you don't get the Gold-foil TNA Chocolate Medal
cheers Danny aka Mr Cheesecake

nice Danny & Teddy, love it

Mikki & Paulus are true gems, treasured freinds, )along with the poet 'DeadEndDave'( bugger knows me well after 50 very odd years for such as me to state this( let us all ride on to a great and rewarding future - and thank Mikki & Paulus for putting such a *&^5*** site together for the benifit of humankink (humanknd I think I mean ... or do I ? ...) Great for TNA, great for all those buggers who follow are or our wayword wanderings .... true dervish style ....

Love you all

HOWLIN' DERVISH

john

I must say thanks to all!! It has been another great day.
I have to add that while it was absolutely pissing it down with rain , I found the stone under inches of earth and spent a good half hour getting covered in muck (mud-bath style) uncovering it while the midges (Yorkshire midges - truly hard buggers, still out biting in the heavy rain!) were swarming around torturing me and savaging every piece of flesh that was exposed . Paulus - meanwhile - was with Paul "level crossing" Hornby in Ilkley town center shopping! They were nowhere to be seen!!!

Mikki xx

Sound lass Mikki

j

Mikki, I just love these emotocons or whatever there called, brilliant to watch and very funny. Could do with some of them putting on TNA proper for folk to use.

Sunbright57 wrote:Mikki, I just love these emotocons or whatever there called, brilliant to watch and very funny. Could do with some of them putting on TNA proper for folk to use.

We will have a look at that and see if we can enable such a thing.

Sunbright57 wrote:Mikki, I just love these emotocons or whatever there called, brilliant to watch and very funny. Could do with some of them putting on TNA proper for folk to use.

Ray, they are on here already!

When you type a reply into the message box, there is a box to the left which contains loads of this smilies. If you scroll down that box - you will see more like these ones -

Oh and the rude one This is reserved for the elite!!!

Mikki

xx

Thanks Admin, would be great to be able to put them on with comments. Cheers.

Mikki, I wasn't quite sure what the rude one was doing - but I know now, oh my god !!!

We've been back up and had a look at this little fella today and, with slightly better lighting conditions, found there's more on this and another stone close by. We're going back up again in the coming week and do some rubbings of the two carvings, get better images and draw the design - and will thereafter add their profiles to TNA.

Hi here's applying a "relief" filter to the photo, so if you oiled the stone and poured Plaster on it



cheers Danny

I like it Danny! Looks a bit like those photogrammatry images they're spending a fortune on to get pretty pictures of the carvings, like this 'n:

http://megalithix.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/morphing-stone-nikon-morphing14.jpg

I hear there's some freebie photogrammetry software floating about, but I dunno how to use it. Twouldst be good to try some out. Any ideas?

I'll email you some more photos to play round with tomorrow Danny, once I've sorted those I took of the carving today. Photoshop 'em at your leisure and see if owt comes out.

Congragulations on the find Mikki. It looks good. Have you informed the Ilkley rock art organization so they can add it to their survey?

Ian

Hi Paul did you sort out any more photo's ?

have you washed the plaster off yet ?
cheers Danny

When people take these photos, please could they put something like a pound coin on the stone for scale? I can't really tell how big these carvings are. Cheers, Andy.

Andy Wade wrote:When people take these photos, please could they put something like a pound coin on the stone for scale? I can't really tell how big these carvings are. Cheers, Andy.

Oops, cheers for the tip Andy. I will try to remember that next time.
The stone in the picture is roughly 5 feet long by 2 to 2 1/2 feet. I will get the tape measure out next time I'm there.

Welcome to the forum

Mikki x

mikki wrote:

Andy Wade wrote:When people take these photos, please could they put something like a pound coin on the stone for scale? I can't really tell how big these carvings are. Cheers, Andy.

Oops, cheers for the tip Andy. I will try to remember that next time.
The stone in the picture is roughly 5 feet long by 2 to 2 1/2 feet. I will get the tape measure out next time I'm there.

Welcome to the forum

Mikki x

Cheers Mikki.
Last year I got to do some surveying work with an archaeologist and he brought along a garden cane that he had wrapped alternately in red and white insulation tape to make what he called a ranging rod. It was in 5 bands 20 cm wide, making up one metre in length. He just kept it in the back of his car. Cheap and cheerful, but it worked well on the pictures he took. I'm going to nick that idea for myself!

Edited to add: It's a brilliant find, by the way. Well done!

Andy Wade wrote:

mikki wrote:

Andy Wade wrote:When people take these photos, please could they put something like a pound coin on the stone for scale? I can't really tell how big these carvings are. Cheers, Andy.

Oops, cheers for the tip Andy. I will try to remember that next time.
The stone in the picture is roughly 5 feet long by 2 to 2 1/2 feet. I will get the tape measure out next time I'm there.

Welcome to the forum

Mikki x

Cheers Mikki.
Last year I got to do some surveying work with an archaeologist and he brought along a garden cane that he had wrapped alternately in red and white insulation tape to make what he called a ranging rod. It was in 5 bands 20 cm wide, making up one metre in length. He just kept it in the back of his car. Cheap and cheerful, but it worked well on the pictures he took. I'm going to nick that idea for myself!

Edited to add: It's a brilliant find, by the way. Well done!

I have thought about getting some of these rods before. I wonder if there are any extendable ones that can fit in a small ruck-sack? I don't drive, so have to rely on trusted friends to get to the further afar sites. Public transport and myself aren't compatible at all, I used to be a pain in the neck for leaving things on the bus , it became a terribly expensive bad habit

Mikki

I've thought about making some folding ones too, but haven't quite worked out how to do it yet. One thing that did occur would be to cut a metre length off an old tape measure and paint red and white 20 cm bands on it. This could be rolled up into a small bag and used when needed (perhaps it could be coiled into a small round plastic tub). I'm such a tight wad... Hey, they used to call it 'make do and mend' ...or so my mum used to say anyway.

Andy Wade wrote:I've thought about making some folding ones too, but haven't quite worked out how to do it yet. One thing that did occur would be to cut a metre length off an old tape measure and paint red and white 20 cm bands on it. This could be rolled up into a small bag and used when needed (perhaps it could be coiled into a small round plastic tub). I'm such a tight wad... Hey, they used to call it 'make do and mend' ...or so my mum used to say anyway.

Whey hey!!! Now that I have been inspired to use my brain (great team-work there), I have come up with this idea - Folding Stick I'm hoping that they do a shorter one as that one is nearly as tall or short (which ever way you want to see it), as I am. I think one of these may work the same way though

Mikki x

Or you could just use a joiners folding ruler and paint it (don't know why I didn't think of this before to be honest)
Can't add hyperlinks to the forum yet. Too much of a newbie. They're really cheap to buy and come already marked for measuring of course...
I put 'Folding Ruler' into Google search and found one straight away.

Andy Wade wrote:Or you could just use a joiners folding ruler and paint it (don't know why I didn't think of this before to be honest)
Can't add hyperlinks to the forum yet. Too much of a newbie. They're really cheap to buy and come already marked for measuring of course...
I put 'Folding Ruler' into Google search and found one straight away.

Great stuff!! Found this one - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1m-FOLDING-RULER-CARPENTERS-WOODWORKING-JOINERY-NEW-/350142169596

Andy Wade wrote: I'm such a tight wad... Hey, they used to call it 'make do and mend' ...or so my mum used to say anyway

.... This ones only £2.28 including the postage. Go on, treat yourself!

I like this one but it wouldn't be long enough- http://www.promorx.com/refoemupru.html

Mikki x