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    Viking Orm

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    Post  Viking Orm on Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:46 am

    Hi....This weekend whilst rersearching for an ancient `lost` Cross, I found this literally a hundred yards from its supposed site. The owners of the driveway in which it sits, say that it has been there for at least sixty years that they know of.

    The thing is, that although this looks like it could possibly be part of the base for the Cross, I`m beginning to wonder if maybe it could have been used in an earlier kind of Pagan ritualistic way, then the Cross being added to it as an addition, at a later date?
    Has anyone any come across anything similar, or if not then any suggestions would be most welcome.

    Thankyou

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    Post  lowergate on Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:11 pm


    Hi Orm,

    Do you have a picture or a Grid SD ref' ?

    Best regards

    john
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    Post  Admin on Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:13 pm

    Hi Orm - Please...tell us more...

    Cheers - Paul

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    Post  Viking Orm on Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:14 pm

    Hi,

    I`m not altogether sure whether or not the uploading of Jpeg photos onto the site is a regular problem or not. This is the third time of trying to, but unfortunately to no avail. I shall try again tomorrow, hopefully with more success.

    Sorry for my Dickheadedness
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    Post  Sunbright57 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:22 pm

    Yes Viking Orm, could you possibly give us a bit my detail with regard to the area where you found the cross-base, possibly with a Os grid reference that is close to or approx. Sounds like an interesting find.

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    Post  Viking Orm on Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:34 pm

    At the moment I would rather keep the source and whereabouts of the `Stone` to myself for now. At least until I have figured out, or at least have a better idea of its true age and its use(s). Not to mention that this is on someones elses private property, as I`m sure you will understand I would rather just send pictures to the site and hopefully receive some expert opinion.
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    Post  Sunbright57 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:37 pm

    Yes I understand that. If you cannot get your photo to upload you might send it to Admin or myself, If you wish. Let me know.
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    Post  Sunbright57 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:14 pm

    Is it you that has put a photo on Facebook? A cross-base? John Dixon?

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    Post  Viking Orm on Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:00 pm

    Hi...Yes, I couldnt for the life of me manage to upload onto this site. So I`ve sent it to John for him to put it on to see what peoples opinions of it are.

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    Post  Viking Orm on Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:17 am

    Hi Ray,

    John doesnt seem to be responding but I`m sure that if you ask him nicely, that he will kindly forward the pictures of the `Cross base` onto the site. Unfortunately my laptop simply doesnt want to know regarding uploading pictures onto the TNA site.
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    Post  Sunbright57 on Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:37 am

    Hi Viking, I could just take your photo from FB and put it onto TNA if that's ok with you?

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    Post  Viking Orm on Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:53 am

    Yes thats fine, there are infact two on there...Thankyou
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    Post  Sunbright57 on Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:36 am

    Cross-base or something else? Copyright Dave Ormerod/Viking Orm.


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    Post  lowergate on Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:50 pm

    Hi Orm,

    See my suggestions on FACEBOOK ... been very busy of late ...

    or Email me at aussteiger_211@hotmail.com

    Tel: 01200 443129 - you have to go through my answer machine ....

    john

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    Post  Viking Orm on Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:38 pm

    Cheers John and thanks for the possibilities. Very interesting array of suggestions, especially the Black Death vinegar stoop.
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    Post  Sunbright57 on Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:55 pm

    I just wondered, could the stone be a crude font from some old church ? It appears to have a drainage channel.
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    Post  lowergate on Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:35 am

    Hi Orm,

    I know that the stone is in a private garden ... but could you at least give me the Parish where the garden stands ? I will give me a better idea of what it is - my research papers will hold someting ...

    Again Orn - you have my private Email & phone number ... If it is in Lancashire I will have it on record ...

    Besr regards

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    Post  Sunbright57 on Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:18 pm

    I think this stone, and any other artefacts, should be recorded as part of our historical and archaeological past/heritage. They should be looked at by people who know what they are and from when they date, and properly recorded by the appropriate authorities, namely a museum where there are proffessional people working to identify these artefacts from our past. Just keeping them hidden away, like relics, is not the correct procedure.I don't know what the "law" is with regard to keeping these locked away. They should be on display in a museum for the general public to view. affraid
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    Post  lowergate on Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:05 pm


    Another idea on what it could be ... a Stoop ... sort of Holy Water font often found on pilgrimage routes ... Catlow is on one such route ...


    Viking Orm ... spill the beans ... your friend ... Harald Fairhair ...

    john XXX

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    Post  Viking Orm on Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:25 pm

    Hi John,

    I am infact away on my hols at the moment. As I said previously, I think it would be in the best interests of the owners and everyone, that the location remains unknown for now at least. I was asked initially to respect the farmers wishes which I intend to honour. He is infact a friend of the family, so that ultimately means that my hands are pretty much tied at the moment. When I get back I shall have words with the farmer to try and talk him round and will keep you up to speed with any developements regarding its identity.

    Best regards


    Sunbright,

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    Post  lowergate on Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:49 am



    I respect your decision Viking Orm - you are indeed a Man of Honour ( my late mother's name was Honora )

    Enjoy your Hol's .... john
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    Post  Sunbright57 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:37 pm

    Okay Viking thanks for letting us know the position (so far). Its good of you to let us know what is happening. Kind regards - Ray. sunny


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    Post  lowergate on Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:20 pm


    Look for well or sring or well in the near vicinity ...

    Enjoy your holl's ...

    john

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