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    Upon visiting sacred places

    Post  Guest on Sun May 30, 2010 6:04 am

    ‘When one visits sacred lands, you must first be pure in your intentions. One must know you are in a special place, where each thought and word are heard by the natural environment.

    Sacred lands are not dead places where humans are forbidden to tread. Instead, sacred places require human visitation – or pilgrimage.

    The place is also an organism that requires a certain amount of interaction with humans. We exchange information. My knowledge may only enter the earth during special visits, with particular ways of perception, that which we call pilgrimage.

    This is not just wandering, but walking with a purpose, with the intention to interact with the place, to give ones best, innermost knowledge and receive something in return. This should be an offering.
    That which you put in, you receive in return.’

    (Danil Ivanovich Mamyev, the director and founder of the recently established Karakol Nature Park “Uch Enmek.” )
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    Paulus

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    Re: Upon visiting sacred places

    Post  Paulus on Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:09 am

    Hi John -

    lowergate wrote:‘When one visits sacred lands, you must first be pure in your intentions. One must know you are in a special place, where each thought and word are heard by the natural environment.

    Sacred lands are not dead places where humans are forbidden to tread. Instead, sacred places require human visitation – or pilgrimage.

    The place is also an organism that requires a certain amount of interaction with humans. We exchange information. My knowledge may only enter the earth during special visits, with particular ways of perception, that which we call pilgrimage.

    This is not just wandering, but walking with a purpose, with the intention to interact with the place, to give ones best, innermost knowledge and receive something in return. This should be an offering.
    That which you put in, you receive in return.’

    (Danil Ivanovich Mamyev, the director and founder of the recently established Karakol Nature Park “Uch Enmek.” )

    We need more of this sorta stuff, but I'm not sure that people are wanting, or able, to discuss such things. But I s'ppose it's about time we tried.

    Back later.....

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    Re: Upon visiting sacred places

    Post  Guest on Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:43 pm

    'He listened to me attentively, then smiled at me and said I should retrace the path of my grandfather's elder brother, go and live on my own in the woods, in the midst of nature, because I was too human to live among men.'

    SIBERIAN EDUCATION. NICOLAI LININ. 2010, CANONGATE

    LOWERGATE

    Take care Paul, & do not suffer fools - you have a gift, use it.

    Best regards

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    cropredy

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    FEAR

    Post  cropredy on Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:48 pm

    When visiting sacred places fear must not be present.
    I like to go to places in the darkness of night, when the suns resonance is not suppressing the out flowing from the planet.
    Then You need to be able to modulate across into 4D
    http://www.educate-yourself.org/cn/howtovanquishfear23may07.shtml
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    Paulus

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    Re: Upon visiting sacred places

    Post  Paulus on Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:04 pm

    Hi Kev -

    cropredy wrote:When visiting sacred places fear must not be present.

    I don't think that's necessarily true. Utilizing fear as a means of communication, or letting go, is sometimes very worthwhile. Fear can and does act as a koan, a psychological punch, enabling us to break thru our rampant ego's attempt to give us false impressions about what/where we are; what we believe we're experiencing, etc.

    As my old mates MuddyMick, Phil Hine, Ray Sherwin, etc would all tell you: fear is sometimes the flavour of the spirit of the place, one aspect of the genius loci on a particular day of the Moon (or whatever influence causes it to occur). Without striving to know that ingredient of the 'sacred site', you are being choosy and merely wanting the site to be what you wannit to be. This is against the nature of the spirits of the Earth, the genius loci. It might make you feel comfortable to subsume this ingredient, but it then falsifies the place.

    cropredy wrote:I like to go to places in the darkness of night...

    Always a damn good time to visit such spots; or when she's pissing-it-down, heavy with mist - or all three together!
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    animystic

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    Re: Upon visiting sacred places

    Post  animystic on Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:46 am

    an old topic, but an interesting one... fear... not all spirits of place are cosy.. some can be downright inimical... not to everyone... maybe choosy? Laughing For example, most people I know who have been to Arbor Low speak of it in glowing terms... uplifting... inspiring. Frankly, it makes me poop my pants
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    Re: Upon visiting sacred places

    Post  Paulus on Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:01 am

    animystic wrote:an old topic, but an interesting one... fear... not all spirits of place are cosy.. some can be downright inimical... not to everyone... maybe choosy? Laughing For example, most people I know who have been to Arbor Low speak of it in glowing terms... uplifting... inspiring. Frankly, it makes me poop my pants

    I've heard a few other folk say similarly about Arbor Lowe. I've yet to visit the place misself, but get the impression it's a night-time site, which could make the uncomfortable genius loci, when it's awake, even more potent. Have you been up to the Backstone circle on Ilkley Moor? It has a similar temperament to what you describe at AL. A decade or so back, one very down-to-earth lady in Hebden Bridge told me she'd never go there again as it felt quite nasty when she visited the place, on an otherwise lovely sunny day.

    Many years back, a few of us spent many nights at certain sites around the Yorkshire region hoping to catch any psychophysical anomalies there. Most nights there was nothing at all; but several times some very curious things indeed emerged. Paul Devereux had a loada folk trying similar things in his extension of the Dragon Project, exploring more peculiar subjective phenomena, and some very intriguing results emerged at a number of sites. He's not published the mass of data collected though, yet, some of which would make very fascinating reading. Several megalithic sites have woke me up in the middle of the night with some stunning nightmares in the past. I find it all very intriguing tbh...

    Sleeping at sites is summat I need to get back into doing a lot more often...again! affraid
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    Re: Upon visiting sacred places

    Post  animystic on Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:27 am

    I wrote about the experience on my blog here http://www.animystic.org.uk/2009/10/21/arbor_low/

    It surprised me, as I was brought up on a diet of Alan Garner and know the Peak District well from my childhood holidays... I had pre-imagined an affinity

    I don't know the circle you speak of... my one foray onto the moor was a minor disaster as the weather turned violent halfway through... horizontal hailstones that cut into our faces like knives Laughing

    Even looking at photo's of Arbor Low gives me the willies... I rarely have such a strong personal reaction to a locale
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    The qualities of Arbor Low

    Post  Vapour Trail on Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:27 pm

    Interesting what you all felt about the acceptance or otherwise of the genius loci at Arbor Low. I have done a great deal of work at Arbor Low dowsing for information of an esoteric nature (who want's to know the obvious stuff, eh?). What I have found I will list below. As Bruce Lee said, take what is useful to you and discard the rest.

    1. The site was created in the Age of Taurus sometime around 4000 BCE. I have an exact date somewhere but it's not relevant to anything, unless you are looking to know its astrological alignment at the time of creation.

    2. The site was originally aligned to the star "Altair" in the constellation of "Aquila" but is now aligned to the star "Ankaa" in the "Pheonix" constellation.

    3. The site is "tuned" in favour of those who have a sun alignment. (I define two types of people - there may be more - but they are roughly either SUN-aligned or MOON-aligned - see my blog's glossary for definitions of that concept).

    4. The Genius Loci of Arbor Low is currently in the form of a bull, and moves around the recumbent rock at the southern end entrance, should you wish to try to locate it.

    5. Sun-aligned people should enter from the northern entrance, and moon-aligned people should enter from the southern entrance.

    6. The Genius Loci is almost always receptive to a visit if the entrant waits at the edge of the site (about ten feet outside the entrance - feel for the change in air pressure) and then asks to enter. If you feel a 'tug' at your stomach then you have been accepted. If you feel a 'push' then you are not currently welcome at that time. It's your own affair should you choose to ignore that. I have been there at night (being a moon-aligned person) and have been warmly received, so it is possible to get a positive experience if some, if not all, the conditions are right.

    7. Because this is a sun site, it will feel most alive when the sun is out, or closer to midday, and closer to the Summer Solstice. The other factor is that it will be more alive when the star Ankaa is visible in the day time.

    I hope that is helpful to anyone hoping to get a positive experience out of Arbor Low. I have found it to be an invaluable teaching place if approached in the right manner, with reverence, and at the right kinds of times.

    Enjoy!
    Gwas.
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    lowergate

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    Re: Upon visiting sacred places

    Post  lowergate on Wed May 25, 2011 12:32 pm

    Yes, I go along with Paulus (RE: sleeping on or near ancient sites). The longer we spend in the natural landscape the more we tune in to that landscape and the earth itself.

    I wild camp when I travel, and it is only then I feel my true self and place in the landscape. Back home or in a B&B/Official campsite I become less human - nothing more than a manipulated speck in the voracious herd that is now the state of mankind.

    Here we are in the 21st century - where individualism is outlawed

    Pity the children of this strange culture

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    Re: Upon visiting sacred places

    Post  lowergate on Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:22 am



    In the dark of night a bird began to sing
    At the riverhead of the valley
    Earth’s navel let flow the song
    All was ripples
    With nothing rippling across no distance at all

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